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Menasor-VS-Puzzler by a-loft-on-cybertron Menasor-VS-Puzzler by a-loft-on-cybertron
I know, this is an old war.
But I had this in mind for some years now.
Was always bothered by the TF combiners being a real pain to collect cause of all these pieces they have. Some Ebay sellers are even specialised into that ! At least, Puzzler is completeonce you have the whole team. No hands or feet to loose. And as Gobots are firing with their bare hands, no weapon either. Good toy for distract boys like me :D
Puzzler comment is about some part of Transformer ROTF movie. Some jokes in it weren't necessary at all. Someone else did the same type of comment :p
Some other duels may follow. We'll see... But you already know who'll win :p
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:iconmrpaintravioli:
MrPaintRavioli Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2014  Student Digital Artist
BATTLE ROYALE!! Cage Match.... Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the main event!
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Hypercat-Z Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2012
Puzzler was cool, and Puzzler Fiend was terrific, by every meaning of the word.
Unfortunately, their cartoon counterparts were not as great as well. Puzzler lasted only one episode before being destroyed, and did not even have a personality on his own. Of Puzzler Fiend we saw only the component number one, Pidger.
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VOLTAREVILGIRL Featured By Owner Sep 16, 2012
Puzzler Rules!!! :iconjoyplz:
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:iconoptimutt:
Optimutt Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2012
Puzzler was a pretty incredible toy, wasn't he? One area where Go-Bots clearly beat out the TF's.
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:icongojirafan96:
GojiraFan96 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2011
the only place that Menasor does beat Puzzler is the Combined Head Sculpt.... I will give it that.
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
When he haven't lost it, maybe.
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GojiraFan96 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2011
I honestly think the score is this:
Transformers-1
Gobots-1
You see, Transformers had a superior show.... but really, when you look at it, Gobots ARE better toys. Usually more detail, articulation, and, i mean REALLY. Compare Windcharger to Major Mo. Major Mo is better use of your money! Compare Rest-Q to Ratchet... No Comparison. Now, don't get me wrong, the larger Transformers are WAY better than the super gobots.... usually.... but, for me at least, Puzzler Wins this one.


BTW, I am sorry, but lightning hands. LIGHTNING HANDS!!! Menasor stands no chance in the cartoon or the toy. Sorry.
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:iconhypercat-z:
Hypercat-Z Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2012
Yeah! Do you remember the episode of the Transformers where Megatron had lighting hands as well? Do you remember how much he rocked?
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Oct 13, 2011
The TF show may be less bad than the Gobot one. But as I only care about the toys, it doesn't matter here :).
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SherbertTCat Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I think Hasbro learned from their mistakes. The new Power Core Combine sets have no extra parts. Just the core robot and four drones.
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2011
Yet there is no real hand. But hey, destroyers don't need hands.
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SherbertTCat Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like the claw hand that some of the drones turn into. Crushy! Crushy!
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creationstar Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
To ~GojiraFan96,

That is the one thing that I can agree with you on.

Overall, I do believe Menasor can take on and destroy Puzzler without much problem.
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011
You speak in the cartoon reality ? Maybe...
But in the plastic toy reality, Puzzler will always be way better than the Decepticon. Even on the individual robots level.
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creationstar Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I know two advantages that Puzzler have over Menasor. One, Puzzler does not have any combiner kibble that Menasor . Also, the individual robot toys do not have pieces that cannot be lost unlike the Stunticons toys since they come with weapons.
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2011
And all the vehicules have the same scale ...:)
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:icongojirafan96:
GojiraFan96 Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2010
one way gobots was superior... NO PARTS TO LOOSE! lol.
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:icona-loft-on-cybertron:
a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011
So better to collect :)
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:iconzetaskiddles:
ZetaSkiddles Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2010
Gobots... Where do I begin.
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2011
Where should it end ?
If you want to start on the cartoon, don't. I just don't care about it.
If you want to start on the toys, well... for the same size, Hasbro is just starting to reach the level of some Gobots toys on the ingenery side :D.
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InUnImNonDis Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2010  Professional Filmographer
Completely understandable man! HAAHahaaa....
Puzzler is much more complete when he comes together- no danglin' part!
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2010
Indeed. And everything is in scale too.
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Snow-katt Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2010
actually the decepticon breast forcers ( who are crap and ugly lumps of malformed cheap looking plastic like the majority of the victory line and command ungodly sums of money on ebay ) do all have their combiner parts build in the only thing thats seperate is liokaisers head
he is stil ugly and his individual components are shite but at least its not aparts hunt any more

despite me beinag tf fan i would go so far and say that puzzler is a far etter combiner
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2010
Breast Force ? Have heard so little about that line.
But well... it came later.
I don't like the TF toys of this time too.
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Harris2300 Featured By Owner May 28, 2010
Constantly having weapons on hand like some sort of super energy punch. At least the Gobots had one advantage over the Transformers.
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Yeah with some others...
It was easier to draw for Hanna Barberra guys too ^^.
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Harris2300 Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Indeed. HB always went for the simplistic limited animation style in order for the cartoons to be cheaper to produce. But many of them had great writing that made up for it.
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2010
Don't really know as I still didn't see the whole Gobots series. Waiting for a home-made dvd for that.
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operative274 Featured By Owner May 24, 2010
but the G1 combiners had a lot more to offer as well - considering you could mix and match up the parts to make your own combiner lol.

Personally, I miss the 'fists and feet' combiners compared to now --> [link] I'm just not impressed.

On the other side, Puzzler just looks damn cool with everything integrated and the designs on the arms was just too cool ^_^
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Yeah, you could mix up the G1 Combiners... but at what cost ! Scale was so disturbing. Hummer, space shuttle, police bike and tank the same size ? really ?
For the combiners, I don't dig the "drone" thing for the limbs. But for now, I think the core bots are some very good scout class toys.
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Retahensid Featured By Owner May 24, 2010
What about the Rail Racer or Build Team, they don't need a hand or a foot?
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Well, I compared here things that could be compared. When Rail Racer and Build team (that I dig) came out, Gobots were gone long time ago. Menasor and Puzzler are both childs of the eighties :).
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Retahensid Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
True, but Menasor is better on combination, posable, and (in Superior's case) standing in place than Puzzler.
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SoundWeavileMeister Featured By Owner May 21, 2010
oh how priceless,well you know theses bids and all' they get tricky when a lot of people are after some pieces that complete the look.
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Don't tell me. I still miss a thundercraker fist for my all black starscream (don't rememer here if it is left or right).
But I also saw people ripping TF appart to sell them in pieces to make more money... Oh well...
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MattMoylan Featured By Owner May 20, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
haha, good one dude
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 31, 2010
Honored !
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:iconmattmoylan:
MattMoylan Featured By Owner May 31, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
It hits all the right buttons dude. It's ultra TF-geeky, but still funny enough for the non TF folks ;)
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jimsupreme Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Professional Traditional Artist
too funny and yet, true for words
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:icona-loft-on-cybertron:
a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
Yeah, finaly, the truth come out :D
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:iconcombatkaiser:
Combatkaiser Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
menasor's crotch plate inferior
puzzler's crotch superior
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:icona-loft-on-cybertron:
a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
Yeah, it's pretty sticking out. But well... guess it makes him more macho or something ...
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Laserbot Featured By Owner May 19, 2010  Hobbyist Filmographer
LOL! this is great!
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
^^
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FindingOx Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
lol!

for me, the original Decepticon seeker jets were the worst... separate hands, launchers, missiles, laser guns, the wings and stabilizers keep fallling off... and if the head piece got loose, he would just fall backward and decapitate himself
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
I have one in progress for them ;)
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FindingOx Featured By Owner May 21, 2010
haha great
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:iconvforvengeance:
vforvengeance Featured By Owner May 19, 2010
It doesn't look like they are going to fight it out, it looks more they are attracted to each other and this is GAY
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a-loft-on-cybertron Featured By Owner May 20, 2010
Yaeh... the attitude may be not clear enought. It's just that Menasor doesn't really want to fight and Puzzler is waiting for him, knowing the battle is won. So they didn't need to have obvious agressive poses.
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WindChargerNut Featured By Owner May 18, 2010
This is great!
I got Drag Strip as a kid and I lost his gun. I was very sad.
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